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Alice Cooper pou ontws kanei osa kanei sth skhnh kai mono alla kata th gnwmh mou h prosfora tous sth mousikh kai i poiothta twn dhmiourgiwn tous genikotera den axizei oute kan prospatheia sygkrishs.
Epidi den to katalaba ayto, dld enoeis oti o manson de sygkrinetai me ton Alice?
Edo na dieykriniso oti kai o manson ine 12 xronia sti mousiki skini kai apo nearoteros.O de alice cooper egine pio megalos se ilikia gnostos kai apo thema sygkrisis, o MM trabei kai tous metalades/rockades alla kai polu perisotero eyrytero koino ap oso elkyei o Alice Cooper (ki as ine pio elafrus o Alice). Aplos as doume ta Mtv ratings tous.

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Fantazomai xerete gia tis fhmes oti afairese dyo pleura tou. O logos einai poly ahdiastikos gia na ton anaferw.
I fimi ayti ine apo geloia eos paralogi kai ti diapseydei o idios o mm se synenteykseis, mia ek ton opoion brisketai stin episimi selida tou.
Akoma kai os mousourgos skizei.
Molis akousa to Mechanical Animals.Sas to protino...apisteyto!
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Den ennow oti o Manson de sygkrinetai me ton Alice sthn poiothta ths mousikhs, ekei ola sygkrinontai alla lew oti de sygkrinontai me bash thn prosfora tous sth mousikh genikotera. Kai isws se 15 xronia pou o Manson tha exei diagrapsei kapoia xronia karieras analoga me ton Alice(kai ta 30 + albums tou) isws tote kai o MM na exei prosferei ki aytos polla, an kai me to style ths mousikhs tous de nomizw oti apotelei kai paradeigma epidrastikothtas. Aplws lew na deis kai mono poioi mousikoi synergasthkan me ton cooper i diaskeyasan kommatia tou ftanei gia mena gia na kanei ena diaxwrismo.

ah kai na xexwrisw oti mallon o Manson mou aresei elafrws perissotero apo ton Cooper an kai h sygkrish tous(mousika) de stekei, einai sa na sygkrineis tous Maiden me tous Children of Bodom xerw gw...

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Aplws lew na deis kai mono poioi mousikoi synergasthkan me ton cooper i diaskeyasan kommatia tou ftanei gia mena gia na kanei ena diaxwrismo.
Ma ayto leo o alice ine ta yperdipla xronia sti mousiki skini... gi ayto kai exei tosa remake ton tragoudion tou... pantos kai gia mena ine kalyteros.Alla ki o idios o alice exo tin entyposi oti ekthiazei ton marilyn,thymamai kati sxetiko se ena link (i mipos itan o mm pou ekthiaze ton ac?de thymamai Razz ).
Peran autoy,de sygkrinontai ta idi,gousta ine ayta.Alla sou ipa...o metalas (manson) katafere na trabiksei pio pollous elafrous rockades kai typous elafreon akousmaton ap ton hard-rocka Alice.Nomizo.
Peri orekseos... Smile .
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ontws peri oreksews...
kai egw exw thn entypwsh oti o Alice Cooper eixe kanei kapoies dhlwseis anagnwriseis tou Manson ws diadoxo tou klp, entaxei ayta mikro rolo paizoun nomizw... H semnothta pantws tha elege pws kaneis den exei kanei arketa gia na einai axios diadoxou, i estw ki an exei kanei, de xreiazetai na to anaferei.

alla o palios einai alliws ki etsi...

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Basika oso gia to proanaferthen sxolio "i ekkentrikotita tou poulaei" exo tin eksis apantisi se osous tin katakrinoun: an poulaei i mouri tou pio polu ap ti mousiki tou ine epidi asxolountai me aytin synexeia. Oso tou ti lene,toso proklitika binteo tha kanei.
Tosos ntoros.... o anthropos symfono ine paneksypnos kai psagmenos kai synama petyxymenos.
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Και εγώ είμαι της γνώμης ότι αυτή η "εκκεντρικότητα" που προβάλλει και θέλει να προβάλλει ο Manson, εξυπηρετεί καθαρά εμπορικούς σκοπούς. Συνήθως όταν δεν μπορείς να ξεχωρίσεις με το ταλέντο σου, επιστρατεύεις και άλλα μέσα έτσι ώστε να πετύχεις το σκοπό σου. Ναι μεν ο Manson έχει πολύ καλές στιγμές στην μουσική του καριέρα, αλλά πέρα από το προσωπικό γούστο του καθ' ενός, ανεξάρτητα η μουσική του αξία δεν είναι κάτι το ιδιέταιρα εντυπωσιακό - ειδικά σε σύγκριση με άλλα ονόματα του ευρύτερου χώρου του "σκληρού ήχου". Εξ' άλλου, τις περισσότερες φορές, η καλύτερη διαφήμηση είναι η δυσφήμηση. Ο Manson με αυτό που κάνει δημιουργεί αίσθηση στην "κοινή γνώμη", η οποία τον κατακρίνει. Αυτό έχει ως αποτέλεσμα να γίνεται ακόμα πιο γνωστός από ότι θα γινόταν αν η "κοινωνία" τον εξυμνούσε ως καλό μουσικό και τραγουδιστή. Φυσικά ο Manson το κάνει αυτό συνειδητά, γιατί όπως είπατε είναι πανέξυπνος και ψαγμένος. Η διαφορά είναι ότι σε ένα βαθμό κοροϊδέυει τον κόσμο. Είναι λίγο ειρωνικό, ε;
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De tha elega "ironia" ayto pou kanei giati ine tetoio to idos tis mousikis tou pou sikonei ekkentrikotita pisteyo. Aplos ti xrisimopoiei polu sosta..pisteyo episis oti ektimaei ton kosmo tou.Exei dilosei oti opos ine ekso etsi ine kai sto spiti tou (se antithesi me ton cooper opos ipame pio pano).Tora an theloume fysika to pisteyoume.
Par ola ayta oriste mia omilia tou pou kritikarei tin sathrotia tis amerikanikis koinonias se kapoia themata:
"I chose to speak to you in a square because I think we are kind of conditioned to listen to people in the shape of a square. And also here in Hollywood this is where we give people what they want. Violence, I guess that's what it seems to come down too. What I wanted to talk to everyone about, I don't want to preach I just want to bring up some questions, and since I always tend to be a scapegoat I thought we'd talk about blame.
Right now everybody wants to blame music they want to blame movies but we've forgotten we got a dead guy hanging from a tree in our living room. And that's something we worshipped all our lives. If you think about the crucifix it's the greatest mass-market piece of merchandise in the world. I found that to be sort of interesting. No ones really sat down and talked about that on the news. And I also wondered why nobody cares when an adult commits some senseless act of violence. They don't want to have a reason why that's only when a kid does it. Oswald "Oh well he was a commie" Timothy McVey "Oh well he's crazy." What about Bill Clinton? Why did he shoot all those bombs and kill all those foreigners "Oh well he's the president" that's the American way.
But I think what's really begun to confuse people now, why were in this state of chaos and PC nonsensical uptightness, it's white teenagers that's the real enigma. Why are they mad? They're middle class, they're white, they're spoiled, and their parents even buy some of them guns. What do they have to be mad about? Is it because they know America is a lie is it because we make them feel like their never good enough? You're never good enough for the car, for the scholarship, for the girl. You're never good enough to be famous for fifteen minutes. Is it the first race in kindergarten when it starts? When mom is yelling "Get the white ribbon, get the white ribbon." "Oh I got the yellow ribbon." and moms "Oh well it's okay, its okay." Then the high school foot ball games and soccer moms screaming "kill em, kill em." The ancient Rome reappears. You got moms, you got kids they want blood. They always have it's not new. People pretend like just because Maury Povich or FOX News or Montell Williams says, "Times are violent" that it's something brand new. But the thing that kind of struck me, that has bee avoided and ignored because people always want to point the finger at some one like me, because I'm obvious and easy target. Because I look like I cause problems and I do, I try to, but I think just like the gladiator the sports hero is the icon in the status quo more than Elvis or James Dean ever was. He's on the Wheaties, he's at McDonald's, and he's in the movie. He even has his own talk show, or he did in some cases but what is that saying to kids if we think about it for a second.
"Sports." Physical prowess is more important than intelligence, knowledge. Is that encouraging America to be not only more violent but dumber. Are we going backward on the evolution chart? I actually would like to check, but it's gone because of the creationists taking it away. You can't even find the evolutionary chart any more. I think every one growing up knows that jocks ruled the school. You look at a movie like "The Outsiders," or "The Heather's." The nerds, the throwaways, the thinkers, the daydreamers, these are the beaten. These are the kids that can't drink out of the water fountain today. I don't see anyone standing up for their civil rights. And then are we surprised why they're mad, why they end up dead. "Why the violence?" You made them America. What do you expect? Look at Woodstock for example. That was supposed to be hippies and love and PC and United Colors of Beneton and bottled water, but instead they got riots fire and rape. And part of it, I think, is this phenomenon, that to me is related to sports. And that's when rap and rock begin to mix and we created this oxymoron called jock rock. And to me its kind of like people come to a party that they don't understand, but their just smart enough to know that they are the stupidest people there. So that makes them mad. I think that's what wood stock was. You had these white kids in football jerseys trying to make rock and roll a sport by raping girls and beating each other up. And every body is surprised. "Why, why, it's the music it's the music." I think part of mans evolution is always to compete. Parents are driving their kids particularly to sports. You got OJ Simpson "He can't be guilty he's an American hero." We're about to put his face on the three-dollar bill. And then this Ray Kerus guy the NFL wide receiver charged with murdering his pregnant girlfriend. Did they ask why? "Why'd he do it?" No one cares why. Ray Lewis this NFL line backer charged with a double homicide in Atlanta on Super Bowl Sunday, the most violent day of the year with the most expensive commercial time, of course. He's out on bail. He's charged with murdering 2 people and he's out on bail. You got Charles Manson siting in prison sentenced to death, and this other guy walking the streets because he's a sports hero.
One story that really struck me and got me thinking about this was a few years ago. There was this teenaged punk rocker kid who was run down in an IHOP parking lot by a white jock and his girl friend in "Dads Cadillac." This boy died because he looked different, and he was run down by a drunk piece of shit that hated him and had always picked on him. And it was a situation where you got 6 kids with their noses pierced, and you got 30 jocks who are the popular kids at school and their picking on them. They're calling them fags, they're calling them whatever. And so this thing happens this guy kills this kid and is clearly guilty, his guilt is admitted. And guess where this All-American athlete is. He's in college. The jury felt the punk rocker deserved to die, because he looked the way he did. And not only was he killed, but then in the trial he was killed again because they criticized his life style, because he didn't wear a Tommy Hilfigure shirt and khaki pants. And then the killer was even applauded at graduation because he was a football star. The American dream strong normal. They never spend a day in prison.
So who do we blame? Everybody wants to say "too much violence today." Did everyone forget about the Civil War or the bible or Shakespeare. Violence isn't brand new and I don't even think seeing violence is the problem. I think the more serious problem, that seeing violence as a solution to solve a problem is what is sending a bad message to kids growing up. Even going back to a western. The hero kills the villain and saves the day. Children grew up during WWII and they learned that total violence was the answer and I think that that's where a dying culture began and a dying culture kills everything that it touches. So these kids grew up learning this and they passed these values down with pride. "We won the war, but damn that Hitler, genocide and all those terrible things that he did forget that we dropped the bomb. But that's different we're Americans and we believe in God."
So that's where they kind of create what I like to call the "God Band-Aid." That's when you got a problem you stick the God Band-Aid on it. "My record's dirty and violent, but I just won a Grammy so I want to thank God." Or "Someone just killed my daughter." Then they're like "It's okay she's with God now." "Oh okay." Or you killed somebody. "But I believe in god now so it's okay." Then all the other people with the God Band-Aids see that and they're like, "Oh he's like us, he's okay lets let him go." Bad parents make bad kids. That's the way I look at it. That's why I asked the question. I put this up on my web site. "Is adult entertainment killing our children, or is killing our children entertaining adults?" I think that's kind of the question we have to ask ourselves today. And you have to ask yourself that every time you watch the hungry cameras at the crime scene, or at the funeral, or at the plane crash, interviewing the victims, 24-hour footage. Watching the guy blow his brains out on the LA freeway. I'm in a square right now. You're looking at me and I'm looking at myself in a monitor. We sit in front of the TV and we are the TV. We're a copy staring at a copy at a copy at a copy. It's like the guy on Jerry Springer who is always looking at the monitor to see if he sees himself. And it becomes a loop because you see it and you see yourself again and again and again so eventually it's a Xerox that's so degenerated you don't know which came first.
And that's where we are and that's what I'd like to leave you with. "
Source: Disinfo.com
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ti na pw... oi stixoi tou to eipan kalytera
"We are all stars on your burning flag..."

h "I'm not a slave to a god that doesn't exist"

h opws eipan kai kapioi alloi stous stixous tous
"Business, the american way"

To thread einai gia ton MM kai de nomizw oti xreiazetai na to anagagoume sthn Amerikh, pantws einai kalo na exei kaneis aytokritikh, giati telika h xwra ths eleftherias einai xwria ths eleftherias twn ligwn.

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EXo akousi Manson an kai exei merika orea tragoudia ..... exo mathei oti alitheui o logos pou Aferese 1 pleuro telika kai aidiazw kai mono pou toskeftome (BliaXXXXXXXXXXX) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil tha prepei na eisai poli trelos gia na to kanis auto..........

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Exw ena filaraki pou akouei para ma para poly Manson kai genika akouei poly psycho pramata.
Pantos ontos merika songs tou Manson einai para poly kala (kai oti prepei gia anime battles Smile )
An kai exei kanei trela pragmata pistevw pws oti kanei to kanei mono kai mono gia dimosiotita kai oxi pws o idios tha to ekane pote an den itan tragoudistis. Mias kai eixe apolytos fisiologiki paidiki zwh!

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De ginesai arxiereas sthn airetikh ekklhsia tou Crowly sthn Agglia gia plaka ... Entaxei polla ta kanei ontws gia na poulhsei . Kai h mousikh tou Manson den einai pcysho, einai men antidrastikh, mia mixh hard rock metal kai rap isws me diafora stoixeia alla den einai psycho, oxi diladi kata th genikh omologia i sygkrinomenos me alles mpantes . Kai btw, de nomizw oti einai kai toso trelos o Manson, oi pio treloi anthrwpoi einai ekeinoi pou fainontai apolytws fisiologikoi...poso mallon an thn trela thn bgazeis sth mousikh sou kai oxi sth zwh sou i sth skhnh.... Ayto einai ontws katorthwma

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einai hli8ios! einai apaisios! einai anapiros kai panhli8ios! lol! einai kai polla alla alla tespa..! Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

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He sucks big time....Einai aplws ena dimiourgima gia tin anaviwsi tis "ipervolikou" styl pou ekene ta amerikanakia pio palia na agwrazoun diskous.
Ahh kai prin ligo kairo,tis efage agria apo ena securita se mia sinavlia,epeidei pidikse sto sverko tou kai arxise na trivei ta genetika tou organa sto kefali tou securita....tin glitwse me kamposous molopes kai me ramata.

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pesta re RAven_FActoR! einai teliws anomalos! se psixiatrio prepei na ton kleisoun! einai to teras tis fiseos! Mad a8lios teliws! Evil or Very Mad oute kan tou aksizei na zei... Twisted Evil

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oloi axizoun na zoun Razz xalara
Kai den eida na sxoliazei kaneis mousika ton Manson.... krima krima. Einai h allh opsh tou nomismatos. Kaneis kati gia na poulas kai sou rxetai boomerang giati tyflwnei kai poly kosmo

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